Received: from REAGAN.AI.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 13065) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU 4 Jun 89 10:57:59 EDT Received: from RELAY.CS.NET by REAGAN.AI.MIT.EDU via INTERNET with SMTP id 217891; 4 Jun 89 10:57:47 EDT Received: by RELAY.CS.NET id ao22990; 3 Jun 89 20:51 EDT Received: from relay2.cs.net by RELAY.CS.NET id ah06747; 2 Jun 89 20:32 EDT Received: from wwu.edu by RELAY.CS.NET id ai12939; 2 Jun 89 20:30 EDT Date: Fri, 2 Jun 89 09:18 PST From: Where Y'at??? <8840488%wwu.edu@RELAY.CS.NET> To: Info-PCNet-Request%ai.ai.mit.edu@RELAY.CS.NET Subject: Request to be added to list X-VMS-To: IN%"Info-PCNet-Request@AI.AI.MIT.EDU" Please add my name to your mailing list. Thank you. Sincerely, Paul K. Simmons 8840488%wwu.edu@RELAY.CS.NET  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU 5 Jun 89 19:49:10 EDT Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU 5 Jun 89 19:48:15 EDT Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa19038; 5 Jun 89 19:44 EDT Received: by BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU with sendmail-5.59/4.7 id ; Mon, 5 Jun 89 18:53:40 EDT Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 5 Jun 89 22:32:57 GMT From: abell Organization: Cal Poly State Univ,CSC Dept,San Luis Obispo,CA 93407 Subject: Novell installation Message-Id: <11702@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU> Sender: info-pcnet-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu Does anyone have any information regarding the driver installation of the EXCELAN EXOS 8052-1 EtherNet card into a NOVELL SFT Netware Network? We are looking for the driver and how to install it. We have tried to contact Novell but they wish to charge us $50 an hour. I guess this is their way of getting even with us by charging us for information referencing donated software. -- Alan C. Bell (abell@polyslo.calpoly.edu) Computer Science Department ..!ucbvax!voder\ California Polytechnic State University ..!sdcrdcf!csun |!polyslo!abell San Luis Obispo, CA 93407 (805)756-7185 ..!lll-crg!csustan/  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU 15 Jun 89 23:04:19 EDT Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU 15 Jun 89 23:02:17 EDT Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa24974; 15 Jun 89 22:57 EDT Received: by BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU with sendmail-5.59/4.7 id ; Thu, 15 Jun 89 22:35:13 EDT Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 14 Jun 89 18:40:55 GMT From: Gord Armstrong Organization: Geac Computers, Markham, Ontario Canada Subject: Writing NetBIOS applications... Message-Id: <7482@geac.UUCP> Sender: info-pcnet-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu Is there anyone writing applications using NetBIOS? To help become familiar, we ordered the "C Programmers Guide to NetBIOS" by H.W.SAMS and IBMs "NetBIOS Application Developement Guide". Were using Novell Netware V2.11 on a Wyse 2108 PC and MS C 5.1. We typed in some progs from the SAMS book (we ordered the disk but, it never came!) with numerous errors, of course. The SEND and RECEIVE progs works fine but, I can't get the datagrams to work??? I was wondering if anyone could share experiences, pitfalls, or any general tidbits encountered using NetBIOS. All help greatly appreciated! ...Gord (gord@geac)  Received: from REAGAN.AI.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 13065) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU 19 Jun 89 13:59:21 EDT Received: from RELAY.CS.NET by REAGAN.AI.MIT.EDU via INTERNET with SMTP id 225310; 19 Jun 89 13:56:06 EDT Received: from relay2.cs.net by RELAY.CS.NET id ao17543; 19 Jun 89 13:53 EDT Received: from sdr.slb.com by RELAY.CS.NET id ba27154; 19 Jun 89 13:49 EDT Date: Mon, 19 Jun 89 12:14 EST From: "Alan L. Brushaber - Ann Arbor - 313-995-6227" <"PSI%SINET1::PSI%AAACA1::COD::ALB%sdr.slb.com"@RELAY.CS.NET> To: info-pcnet-request%ai.ai.mit.edu@RELAY.CS.NET X-VMS-To: CSNET::"info-pcnet-request@ai.ai.mit.edu",ALB SUBSCRIBE INFO-PCNet Alan L. Brushaber  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU 19 Jun 89 20:33:12 EDT Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU 19 Jun 89 20:30:37 EDT Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa29889; 19 Jun 89 20:17 EDT Received: by BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU with sendmail-5.59/4.7 id ; Mon, 19 Jun 89 19:50:31 EDT Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 19 Jun 89 21:16:56 GMT From: Anthony Olejnik Organization: University of Pennsylvania Subject: PCLAN/NetBIOS/TCP problem Message-Id: <12199@netnews.upenn.edu> Sender: info-pcnet-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu I'm having a problem with IBM's PCLAN program. The problem appears with both versions 1.2 and 1.3 (I don't know about earlier versions). I've noticed that when using either Ungermann-Bass PCNIUs (with Release 16.0 of their TCP/PC software) or WD8003E's (with PC/TCP v2.03 pl 1 software) the PCLAN server does not drop non-existent sessions. Both of the HW/SW combinations are using the NetBIOS as referenced in RFC's 1001 & 1002. Clients who connect to the server are still "seen" by the server even after the PC is turned off. This presents a problem the next day when the same clients attempt to connect to the server again. If the server has available NETBIOS/TCP sessions, then the client is able to re-connect. However, this still leaves a non-existent session on the server end. If the server does not have any available NETBIOS/TCP sessions, then the client is not able to re-connect. Is this a problem with PCLAN? Is this a problem with my configuration of PCLAN? (I start the server via the following command: net start srv test /cac:0) Is this a problem with both UB and FTP's software? Is this a (RFC 1001/2) NetBIOS bug? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. --tony olejnik University of Pennsylvania Data Communications and Computing Services Suite 221A 3401 Walnut Street Philadelphia, PA 19104 (215) 898-9408 tony@dccs.upenn.edu  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU 23 Jun 89 18:48:12 EDT Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU 23 Jun 89 18:47:57 EDT Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa04692; 23 Jun 89 18:43 EDT Received: by BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU with sendmail-5.59/4.7 id ; Fri, 23 Jun 89 18:27:32 EDT Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 23 Jun 89 22:22:36 GMT From: Greg Small Organization: University of California, Berkeley Subject: PCLAN/NetBIOS/TCP problem Message-Id: <25723@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Sender: info-pcnet-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu = Article 26 of comp.protocols.pcnet: Date: 19 Jun 89 21:16:56 GMT = From: tony@scotty.dccs.upenn.edu (Anthony Olejnik) = = I'm having a problem with IBM's PCLAN program. When using either Ungermann- = Bass PCNIUs (with Release 16.0 of TCPPC) or WD8003E's (with PC/TCP v2.03 pl = 1) the PCLAN server does not drop non-existent sessions. = = Clients who connect to the server are still "seen" by the server even after = the PC is turned off. This presents a problem the next day when the same = clients attempt to connect to the server again. If the server has available = NETBIOS/TCP sessions, then the client is able to re-connect. However, this = still leaves a non-existent session on the server end. The temporary solution for UB TCP-PC 16.0 is to turn on TCP Heartbeats. This allows the server to time-out the connection. RFC1001/1002 also provides a separate heartbeat for Netbios sessions only but that is not implemented in 16.0 (comming in 16.1?). You should check PC/TCP for a similar option. There is a similar problem that PC Net/LAN does not clean up a Netbios connection if the workstation IP address is changed while the server has a Netbios connection open. When the workstation logs back into the server the connection under the old IP address is maintained. I guess from your question that the UB TCPPC 16.0 and the PC/TCP interoperate OK under RFC1001/1002? Gregory T Small (415)642-5979 Personal Computer Networking & Communications gts@violet.Berkeley.EDU Workstation Support Services - Software Group ucbvax!jade!gts 267 Evans Hall SPGGTS@UCBCMSA.BITNET University of California, Berkeley, Ca 94720  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU 1 Jul 89 08:30:51 EDT Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU 1 Jul 89 08:30:21 EDT Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa05079; 1 Jul 89 8:29 EDT Received: by BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU with sendmail-5.59/4.7 id ; Sat, 1 Jul 89 08:16:08 EDT Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 30 Jun 89 18:53:48 GMT From: portal!cup.portal.com!John_Robert_Breeden@uunet.uu.net Organization: The Portal System (TM) Subject: DECnet PCSA driver programmer needed Message-Id: <20032@cup.portal.com> Sender: info-pcnet-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu I need to get a driver written to an Ethernet board for DEC's PCSA/DEC-DOS (both the DLL and scheduler). The board is very similar to the Micom and Exelan boards (same chip). I work for a Fortune 10 company and we need the driver developed ASAP. I have the budget, do you have the talent? This is a serious message - speed is of the essence. Serious inquirys please contact me at one of the addresses below. net: john_robert_breeden@cup.portal.com attmail: !jbreeden work (voice): 415-442-3838  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU 7 Jul 89 10:13:18 EDT Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU 7 Jul 89 10:12:04 EDT Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa01438; 7 Jul 89 10:10 EDT Received: by BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU with sendmail-5.59/4.7 id ; Fri, 7 Jul 89 09:33:06 EDT Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 7 Jul 89 09:38:16 GMT From: Rune Br{nnstr|m Organization: Diab Data AB, Taby, Sweden Subject: PD NetBIOS on TCP/IP wanted Message-Id: <474@diab.se> Sender: info-pcnet-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu Netland citizens! From where can I get a public domain source for a RFC1001/2 compliant "NetBIOS on TCP/IP" implementation. A source targeted for a Unix box is preferred, but anything will go. Please e-mail Your hints, comments, sources, etc., to me ASAP.  Received: from REAGAN.AI.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 13065) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU 12 Jul 89 16:38:50 EDT Received: from gtewd.af.mil (INTERNET|26.8.0.16) by REAGAN.AI.MIT.EDU via INTERNET with SMTP id 234529; 12 Jul 89 12:13:50 EDT Date: 12 Jul 89 09:03:00 PDT From: "14518_MICHAEL YOUNG" Subject: Network access from a PC To: "info-pcnet" I'm am in the process of changing jobs and my new employer does not have any machines with net access and not much chance of getting it either. I am wondering if it is possible to access any net (Arpa,Bit,Use etc.) via a PC. Is there anything like a public access bbs or some other method of mail transfer/download from Compuserve? Any and all information would be appreciated, the cheaper the better. Please reply directly to me as I don't subscribe to all the groups I am sending this to. Thanks in advance, Michael Young Youngma@gtewd.af.mil  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU 13 Jul 89 18:48:54 EDT Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU 13 Jul 89 18:48:01 EDT Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa18248; 13 Jul 89 18:42 EDT Received: by BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU with sendmail-5.59/4.7 id ; Thu, 13 Jul 89 18:22:56 EDT Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 13 Jul 89 22:16:32 GMT From: Keith M Boyer Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Computer & Information Science Subject: Wanted-Pros and Cons of PC Networks Message-Id: <54850@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> Sender: info-pcnet-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu I'm asking this for someone who has to decide what PC network they will use in a trade school. The intention is to teach a course on or using a PC network. It is also desirable to make use of the network to get real work done, but the primary use will be teaching. The question is - what do people recommend. Novell is well known and would be relevant, since it is used widely and the students would benefit from this when looking for a job. However, there are alot of other issues including speed, ease of use, cost, supported software, upgradability and other things. Please email responses. Any info is appreciated. Thanks, Keith M Boyer -=- - Keith M. Boyer Department of Computer and Information Science -- THE Ohio State University 2036 Neil Ave. Columbus OH USA 43210-1277 - keith@cis.ohio-state.edu or ...!osu-cis!cis.ohio-state.edu!keith EVERYTHING SHOULD BE MADE AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE, BUT NOT SIMPLER-Albert Einstein  Received: from REAGAN.AI.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 13065) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU 23 Aug 89 13:07:58 EDT Received: from sutro.SFSU.EDU (INTERNET|130.212.15.230) by REAGAN.AI.MIT.EDU via INTERNET with SMTP id 253059; 23 Aug 89 13:07:32 EDT Received: by sutro.SFSU.EDU (NeXT-0.8/NeXT-0.9) id AA01533; Wed, 23 Aug 89 10:06:38 PDT Date: Wed, 23 Aug 89 10:06:38 PDT From: shahryar@sutro.SFSU.EDU (Shahryar G. Hashemi) Message-Id: <8908231706.AA01533@sutro.SFSU.EDU> To: Info-PCNet-Request@ai.ai.mit.edu Subject: Being added to the LIST To whom it may concern: I would like to be added to the Info-PCNet network. Shahryar Ghazneini Hashemi  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU 10 Oct 89 18:55:11 EDT Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU 10 Oct 89 18:53:14 EDT Received: from paris.ics.uci.edu by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa28605; 10 Oct 89 18:48 EDT Received: from news.ics.uci.edu by PARIS.ICS.UCI.EDU id aa12064; 10 Oct 89 15:44 PDT Newsgroups: fa.info-pcnet From: "Manfred J. Pfluegl" Subject: WESTERN DIGITAL'S VIANET Message-ID: <3425@orion.cf.uci.edu> To: fa-info-pcnet@paris.ics.uci.edu Keywords: WDC's Vianet, MicroSoft Networks Received: from orion.oac.uci.edu by PARIS.ICS.UCI.EDU id aa11864; 10 Oct 89 15:40 PDT Sender: news@orion.oac.uci.edu Source-Info: From (or Sender) name not authenticated. Organization: UC Irvine Date: 10 Oct 89 22:37:46 GMT Lines: 43 To: info-pcnet@balboa.eng.uci.edu I am in pretty bad mood right now. In our lab we installed a network of IBM AT's and compatibles. As networking software we choose Western Digital's package called VIANET. The hardware boards are also coming from Western Digital (WDC 8003, WD8003E, and WD8003 plus). Over the last year I experienced several major problems: 1) Frequent crashes when the networking software is running. It seems that crashes in applications like editors (XYWrite, MS Word) are are the most common ones. 2) We also get the error message 'General Failure on drive Z:' from time to time when we use 'xcopy' over the network. 3) Our PS/2 model sometimes crashes during the execution of 'nonet'. 4) We cannot open more than 15 files although the description claims that up to 255-x (where x is a small number around 30) files can be opened concurrently. Without VIANET running it is working properly. I am also in contact with Western Digital directly. They are very helpful but couldn't give me any explanations for the above problems. My question now is: Are there any other VIANET users out there? If so, do you also experience problems? Could you overcome any of these problems? Additionally, I am getting interested in other software products especially MircoSoft Networks. Can you give me general information from the user perspective? How convenient is it to install, to use, ...? Are there also software bugs? .... Any help is more than welcome. Thank you, Manfred PS: Since I am cross-posting please respond either via email or post in newsgroup comp.dcom.lans only. ************** MM MMPPPP Manfred J. Pfluegl ***** MM M MP P pfluegl@balboa.eng.uci.edu ***** M M MPPPP pfluegl%balboa.eng.uci.edu@orion.cf.uci.edu ***** M MP pfluegl%balboa.eng.uci.edu@RELAY.CS.NET  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU 20 Oct 89 12:32:05 EDT Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU 20 Oct 89 12:25:51 EDT Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa03429; 20 Oct 89 12:19 EDT Received: by BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU (5.61/25-eef) id AA11892; Fri, 20 Oct 89 10:01:56 EDT Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 19 Oct 89 18:57:20 GMT From: "Brendan B. Boerner" Organization: UT Austin Computation Center, Microcomputer Services Subject: status of NetBIOS over UDP query Message-Id: <19832@ut-emx.UUCP> Sender: info-pcnet-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu Does there exist any implementations of RFC1001 and RFC1002 (NetBIOS over UDP)? In particular, does there exists some sort of library which could be used to write applications on a UN*X host which used a NetBIOS interface? On the same subject, is there a router which would convert NetBIOS on Broadband or Token-Ring to NetBIOS over UDP? Please e-mail and I will post or mail the collected responses. Thanks, Brendan -- Brendan B. Boerner Phone: 512/471-3241 Microcomputer Technologies The University of Texas @ Austin Internet: boerner@emx.utexas.edu UUCP: ...!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!boerner BITNET: CCGB001@UTXVM.BITNET AppleLink: boerner@emx.utexas.edu@DASNET#  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU 26 Oct 89 13:36:44 EDT Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU 26 Oct 89 13:27:50 EDT Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa06230; 26 Oct 89 13:21 EDT Received: by BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU (5.61/25-eef) id AA01494; Thu, 26 Oct 89 12:54:37 EDT Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 26 Oct 89 15:35:32 GMT From: David Hayes Subject: Need information on Novell packet formats Message-Id: <15977@pollux.UUCP> Sender: info-pcnet-request@MC.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@MC.lcs.mit.edu I am looking for information on Novell internals. Specifically, the format of the different packets Novell uses to communicate between the file server(s) and the client machine. I don't have routine access to a USENET feed, so please reply directly to me. I will summarize and post (through a friend) any answers I receive. Thanks in advance. Christopher Seline cjs@cwru.bitnet cjs@cwru.cwru.edu (internet) David Hayes School of Engineering Southern Methodist University merlin@smu.edu uunet!smu!merlin "Argue for your limitation, and, sure enough, they're yours." - Richard Bach  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU 7 Nov 89 13:07:01 EST Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU 7 Nov 89 13:01:34 EST Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa04837; 7 Nov 89 12:54 EST Received: by BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU (5.61/25-eef) id AA00314; Tue, 7 Nov 89 12:36:23 EST Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 7 Nov 89 17:27:41 GMT From: "Brendan B. Boerner" Organization: UT Austin Computation Center, Microcomputer Services Subject: need phone number of company in Dallas, TX Message-Id: <20604@ut-emx.UUCP> Sender: info-pcnet-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu Does anyone have the phone number for Pernetix Inc., a company in Dallas, TX which has a product called NETBIOS/ix? If so, I would appreciate it if you would send it to me. Someone saw a blurb about this product in _InformationWEEK_ and asked me to track it down. Thanks, Brendan -- Brendan B. Boerner Phone: 512/471-3241 Microcomputer Technologies The University of Texas @ Austin Internet: boerner@emx.utexas.edu UUCP: ...!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!boerner BITNET: CCGB001@UTXVM.BITNET AppleLink: boerner@emx.utexas.edu@DASNET#  Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU 22 Nov 89 18:20:47 EST Received: from MIT.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa28889; 22 Nov 89 18:13 EST Received: from RELAY.CS.NET by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA24448; Wed, 22 Nov 89 17:55:51 EST Received: from dg-rtp.rtp.dg.com by RELAY.CS.NET id aa05828; 22 Nov 89 16:56 EST Received: from hanama.rtp.dg.com (hanama) by dg-rtp.dg.com (4.20/4.7) id AA11876; Wed, 22 Nov 89 17:39:48 est via SMTP Received: by hanama.rtp.dg.com (1.00/4.7) id AA02216; Wed, 22 Nov 89 17:34:36 est Date: Wed, 22 Nov 89 17:34:36 est From: Walt O'Brien Message-Id: <8911222234.AA02216@hanama.rtp.dg.com> To: Info-PCNet-Request%ai.ai.mit.edu@relay.cs.net Subject: adam.dg.com address change may affect list INFO-PCNET In an effort to improve service, adam is being upgraded to a more powerful processor and will be administered by a new organization. The upgrade will take place saturday 11/25/89. Expect a brief disruption of service. As part of the upgrade, the internet address for adam.dg.com will be changed from 128.221.1.1 to 128.221.3.6. Those using domain name service should not see a change. However, if you have an explicit hosts file entry for adam you will need to change the address. Also as part of the upgrade, we are trying to verify our mailing list subscriptions. PLEASE CONFIRM/DENY our membership in your to postmaster@adam.ceo.dg.com mailing list. Thank you for your cooperation, New ADAM Administration  Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU 25 Nov 89 08:22:33 EST Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa07411; 25 Nov 89 8:12 EST Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1MX) with BSMTP id 3909; Sat, 25 Nov 89 08:11:45 EST Received: from CSGHSG5A.BITNET (YIN) by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (Mailer R2.03B) with BSMTP id 2674; Sat, 25 Nov 89 08:11:44 EST Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1989 11:28:04.66 GMT+1 From: "Min Yin - Wirtschaftsinformatik - Tel.": 071/302402 ;, Subject: help@csghsg5a.bitnet; MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet-request@ai.ai.mit.edu MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at lcs.mit.edu Message-ID: <8911250812.aa07411@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> Hi, Could u add me into this mailing-list and send me some help-infos about using all the services provided by the server? thanx a lot in advance min yin YIN@CSGHSG5A.BITNET  Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU; 27 Nov 89 11:05:40 EST Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa15129; 27 Nov 89 10:58 EST Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1MX) with BSMTP id 7041; Mon, 27 Nov 89 10:57:43 EST Received: from brandeis.bitnet (BALCH) by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (Mailer R2.03B) with BSMTP id 1674; Mon, 27 Nov 89 10:57:42 EST Date: Mon, 27 Nov 89 10:57 EDT From: Ken Balch Subject: Registration To: info-pcnet-request@ai.ai.mit.edu X-VMS-To: INFO-PC Message-ID: <8911271058.aa15129@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> Please register me to begin receiving Info-Pc at Bitnet address BALCH@Brandeis.Bitnet. Thank you. Ken Balch Computer Store Manager  Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU; 4 Dec 89 17:16:50 EST Received: from MIT.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa06883; 4 Dec 89 17:09 EST Received: from RELAY.CS.NET by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA20925; Mon, 4 Dec 89 17:07:02 EST Received: from dg-rtp.rtp.dg.com by RELAY.CS.NET id aa13305; 4 Dec 89 16:03 EST Received: from hanama.rtp.dg.com (hanama) by dg-rtp.dg.com (4.12/4.7) id AA14297; Mon, 4 Dec 89 17:03:54 est via SMTP Received: by hanama.rtp.dg.com (1.00/4.7) id AA29067; Mon, 4 Dec 89 17:00:21 est Date: Mon, 4 Dec 89 17:00:21 est From: Walt O'Brien Message-Id: <8912042200.AA29067@hanama.rtp.dg.com> To: Info-PCNet-Request%ai.ai.mit.edu@relay.cs.net Subject: adam.dg.com address change may affect list INFO-PCNET In an effort to improve service, adam has been upgraded to a more powerful processor and is now administered by a new organization. The upgrade took place saturday 11/25/89. Service has been resumed. As part of the upgrade, the internet address for adam.dg.com has changed from 128.221.1.1 to 128.221.3.6. The MX records for dg.com and adam.dg.com have been updated. Unfortunately, through a clerical error the old MX record had a 41 day expiration time. Thus, if you use domain naming, IT MAY BE NECESSARY FOR YOU TO FLUSH YOUR DOMAIN NAME CACHE to use the new address. If you use an explicit hosts file entry for adam, you will need to change the address. Also as part of the upgrade, we are trying to verify our mailing list subscriptions. PLEASE CONFIRM/DENY our membership (at least a dg.com address) in your mailing list to postmaster@adam.ceo.dg.com . We are sorry if this is a duplicate. We are trying to fix up our mailing lists. Thank you for your cooperation, New ADAM Administration  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU; 20 Dec 89 01:12:44 EST Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU; 20 Dec 89 01:11:57 EST Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa25046; 20 Dec 89 1:09 EST Received: by BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU (5.61/25-eef) id AA10813; Wed, 20 Dec 89 00:58:01 EST Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 20 Dec 89 05:38:40 GMT From: "Brendan B. Boerner" Organization: UT Austin Computation Center, Microcomputer Technologies Subject: bridging Token-Ring Message-Id: <22561@ut-emx.UUCP> Sender: info-pcnet-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu I need to know if it is possible to bridge some Token-Ring rings which contain servers running IBM OS/2 Lan Server, Novell Netware, and Apple Applshare. Here is a simple ring setup which I can use to describe my questions: Ring A <---B1---> Ring B <---B2---> Ring C All user workstations are on Ring A. User workstations will be: {PC,MS}-DOS with Novell Netware v2.15 {PC,MS}-DOS with IBM PC LAN v1.3 OS/2 with the IBM Requester Macintosh OS with Appleshare Ring B will contain the servers. They will be: Novell Netware v2.15 OS/2 Lan Server v1.1 AppleShare v2.0 Ring C will contain an IBM mainframe which would be accessed via 3270 connections using Token-Ring. Suppose B1 and B2 are Novell Bridges. Would all the workstations be able to access their respective server? Would the workstations running the appropriate 3270 software be able to get to the IBM mainframe? Suppose B1 is a Novell Bridge and B2 is an IBM Bridge. What then? Suppose B1 is an IBM and B2 is an Novell Bridge. What then? Suppose B1 and B2 are IBM Bridges. What then? If none of these scenarios allow any workstation to access any service, are there any bridges which would? Please e-mail me and I can summarize if their is any interest. Thanks, Brendan -- Brendan B. Boerner Phone: 512/471-3241 Microcomputer Technologies The University of Texas @ Austin Internet: boerner@emx.utexas.edu UUCP: ...!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!boerner BITNET: CCGB001@UTXVM.BITNET AppleLink: boerner@emx.utexas.edu@DASNET#  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU; 21 Dec 89 13:14:45 EST Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU; 21 Dec 89 13:13:17 EST Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa02270; 21 Dec 89 13:09 EST Received: by BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU (5.61/25-eef) id AA19196; Thu, 21 Dec 89 12:25:49 EST Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 21 Dec 89 14:35:33 GMT From: Ken Leonard Organization: Unisys Defense Systems, NISD, Great Valley Laboratory Subject: interrogative tcp-ip on arcnet Message-Id: <470@gvlv2.GVL.Unisys.COM> Sender: info-pcnet-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu -- [Flame off, please, about the hardware choice. We _had_ to go with absolute- lowest-cost-per-_permissible_-suppliers.] -- We are setting up a few engineers' PClones on an ARCNET LAN, specifically Datapoint Corp's. DATALAN. -- The first question is, "Where can we get IP, TCP, et.al. to run over ARCNET?" -- And the second question is, "How can we use one of the boxes with a 9600 bps link to a UNIX/VAX with SLIP and router software to get access to the rest of the systems here at our center?" -- We think we would like to have a _packet_driver_ for our ARCNET cards (the Performance Technology card sold by Datapoint as the ARCNET RIM-1.) -- We think we could use PCIP on top of the packet driver. -- We think PCROUTE or PCBRIDGE would handle the cross-connect. -- Can we also get a _packet_driver_ SLIP? -- What about KA9Q? It seems that it might work. Maybe we could get Phil Karns' permission to use it. Yes, we _are_ a commercial organization, but our corporate management is so thoroughly brain-dead that they think "personal computers" (and even shared UNIX systems) are just something to be sold to a bunch of gullible customers, and not actual possibly useful tools. -- All comments and suggestions gratefully accepted! --------------------- thanx and regardz, Ken  Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU; 11 Jan 90 16:40:59 EST Received: from ucbeh.san.uc.edu by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa03970; 11 Jan 90 15:36 EST Date: Thu, 11 Jan 90 14:13 EST From: Amin Shafie - Univ of Cincinnati Comp Ctr Subject: SIGUCCS CALL for PARTICIPATION To: 386USERS@twg.com, 9370-L%HEARN.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu, AAI@st-louis-emh2.army.mil, ADA-SW@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil, ADVISE-L%CANADA01.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu, ADVSYS@eddie.mit.edu, AG-EXP-L%NDSUVM1.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu, AI-ED@sumex-aim.stanford.edu, AIDSNEWS%RUTVM1.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu, AIList@ai.ai.mit.edu, AIX-L%BUACCA.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu, ALLIN1-L@ccvm.sunysb.edu, AMETHYST-USERS@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil, AMIGA-RELAY@udel.edu, ANDREW-DEMOS@andrew.cmu.edu, ANTHRO-L%UBVM.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu, apollo@umix.cc.umich.edu, ARMS-D@xx.lcs.mit.edu, ARPANET-BBOARDS@mc.lcs.mit.edu, ASM370%UCF1VM.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu, AVIATION@mc.lcs.mit.edu, AVIATION-THEORY@mc.lcs.mit.edu, bicycles@bbn.com, BIG-LAN@suvm.acs.syr.edu, BIG-LAN@suvm.bitnet, BIOTECH%UMDC.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu, BIOTECH@umdc.umd.edu, BITNEWS%BITNIC.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu, BMDP-L%MCGILL1.BITNET@CORNELLC.CIT.CORNELL.EDU, bug-1100@sumex-aim.stanford.edu, CA@think.com, CADinterest^.es@xerox.com, CAN-INET@mc.lcs.mit.edu, cisco@spot.colorado.edu Message-id: X-Envelope-to: Info-PCNet@AI.AI.MIT.EDU, CUBE-LOVERS@AI.AI.MIT.EDU, AIList@AI.AI.MIT.EDU X-VMS-To: @LISTS.DIS X-VMS-Cc: SHAFIE <-------------------------------------------------------------------- < < SIGUCCS User Services Conference XVIII < Call For Participation < < New Centerings in Computing Services < < September 30 through October 3, 1990 < < Westin Hotel < Cincinnati, Ohio < < <<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << << <>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << <>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << << << <>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << <>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << <>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << <>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << << <>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << << <>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << << <>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << << < To: info-pcnet-request@ai.ai.mit.edu Subject: Addition to mailing list Date: Mon, 15 Jan 90 11:00:34 -0800 Please add pcnet@trwind.trw.com to the mailing list if it is not already on it. Thank you.  Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU; 6 Feb 90 14:31:54 EST Received: from corona-bb.itd.msstate.edu by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa17727; 6 Feb 90 14:21 EST Received: from sol.ITD.MsState.Edu by ITD.MsState.Edu (4.0/5.0s); id AA05778; Tue, 6 Feb 90 13:24:06 CST Message-Id: <9002061924.AA05778@ITD.MsState.Edu> From: Robert Miller Date: Tue, 6 Feb 90 13:24:04 CST X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (6.5.6 6/30/89) To: Info-PCNet-Request@ai.ai.mit.edu SUBSCRIBE Info-PCNet Robert Miller -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "Insert commercial here" ======================================================= socrates (a.k.a. Robert Miller) @corona.itd.msstate.edu (130.18.8.160) @ee.msstate.edu (130.18.64.11) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  Received: from REAGAN.AI.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 13065) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU; 15 Feb 90 00:28:39 EST Received: from AI.MIT.EDU by REAGAN.AI.MIT.EDU via INTERNET with SMTP id 12720; 15 Feb 90 00:28:14 EST Received: from mitvma.mit.edu by life.ai.mit.edu (4.0/AI-4.10) id AA13866; Thu, 15 Feb 90 00:27:36 EST Message-Id: <9002150527.AA13866@life.ai.mit.edu> Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1MX) with BSMTP id 9436; Thu, 15 Feb 90 00:25:43 EST Received: from TWNAS886.BITNET (PHCHEHUN) by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (Mailer R2.05) with BSMTP id 8750; Thu, 15 Feb 90 00:25:42 EST Date: Thu, 15 Feb 90 13:21 U From: Subject: SUBSCRIBE To: INFO-PCNET-REQUEST@ai.ai.mit.edu X-Original-To: INFO-PCNET-REQUEST@AI.AI.MIT.EDU, PHCHEHUNG SUBSCRIBE INFO-PCNET CHE-HUNG WEI  Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU; 8 Mar 90 11:51:11 EST Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa20324; 8 Mar 90 11:46 EST Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1MX) with BSMTP id 0257; Thu, 08 Mar 90 11:45:41 EST Received: from TWNAS886.BITNET (PHCHEHUN) by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (Mailer R2.05) with BSMTP id 9795; Thu, 08 Mar 90 11:45:38 EST Date: Fri, 9 Mar 90 00:35 U From: PHCHEHUN%TWNAS886.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at lcs.mit.edu Subject: SUBSCRIBE To: INFO-PCNET@AI.ai.mit.edu X-Original-To: INFO-PCNET@AI.AI.MIT.EDU, PHCHEHUNG Message-ID: <9003081146.aa20324@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> SUBSCRIBE INFO-PCNET HEDI WEI  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU; 13 Mar 90 06:10:26 EST Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU; 13 Mar 90 06:08:40 EST Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa07420; 13 Mar 90 5:55 EST Received: by BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU (5.61/25-eef) id AA12240; Tue, 13 Mar 90 05:04:37 EST Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 13 Mar 90 01:11:02 GMT From: "R. Scott Youmans" Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA Subject: Trouble with MSC, FileIO, & 10Net (whew!) Message-Id: <11776@xanth.cs.odu.edu> Sender: info-pcnet-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu I am using 2 386 IBM-PC clones with DOS 3.3, 10NET Lan software, Metawindows & Island Graphics software and Microsoft C5.1 ... and I have a problem. The overview of the task is simple: pressing a key on PC-A pulls up a graphics screen on both PC-A and PC-B. PC-B should not display its screen until it receives a signal from A. This is done for 20 screens. To do this quickly, I decided to use a shared file ovcer the network. PC-A creates it whenever a key is pressed. PC-B loops on fopen()!=NULL until the file exists. Then it closes the file, deletes it, and displays its image. So, what`s the problem? PC-A runs fine all the way through. PC-B only runs through about half (13) of the screens! Here is the main loop on PC-B: while (!kbhit() && current < 19) { if (next = fopen (SYNC, "r") != NULL) { fclose(next); readstatus = ReadPaint (image_list[current++], thePort); remove (SYNC); } } So, while it is not interrupted with a keypress, or current is < 19, it checks for the existance of the SYNC file. If present, it closes it, read in the image and removes the file. I have tracked down the problen to the fopen in ReadPaint. It is unable to open the file even though it is in the current directory. Then, on subsequent attempts the fopen(SYNC) command fails, even though the file is present. It is as if I ran out of files to open, or some buffer got screwed. Oh, in config.sys, files=40 buffers=20. If one of you recognises the problem, or wishes to help, I would like your assistance. I've put too many hours on this already. Also, if you know of an alternative (Interprocess Communication or other) on 10Net or with shared files, please speak up! This is my first big experience with MSC and DOS (from a UNIX environment), so don't hesitate to state the obvious. Much thanks, (the weary...) Scott Youmans....................................youmans@cs.odu.edu Computer Science Old Dominion University..............................Save The Earth  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU; 22 Mar 90 04:08:13 EST Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU; 22 Mar 90 04:04:18 EST Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa08220; 22 Mar 90 4:02 EST Received: by BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU (5.61/25-eef) id AA26328; Thu, 22 Mar 90 03:05:47 EST Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 20 Mar 90 20:17:46 GMT From: Craig Statchuk Organization: Cognos Inc., Ottawa, Canada Subject: TCP/IP under MS-WINDOWS Message-Id: <8111@cognos.UUCP> Sender: info-pcnet-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu "Is there a package that provides TCP/IP support under MS-WINDOWS?" Our basic requirement is for an OSI Session level interface (like BSD Sockets) that works when linked to a WINDOWS application. The software we are developing uses a client/server model where the MS-WINDOWS application runs as a client and a mini/mainframe task acts as a server: +------------------+ | PC WINDOWS | | APPLICATION | +------------------+ <----+ | Session Interface| | The Missing Link is here. We have not +------------------+ +-- found any products that provide | TCP/IP Drivers | | Program-to-Program TCP/IP connections +------------------+ <----+ from WINDOWS | |/| TCP/IP | +----------------------+ | TCP/IP Server | | (SUN, VAX, HP,.. etc)| +----------------------+ We have looked at a couple of packages, namely PC-NFS (with the Programmer's Toolkit) and Wollongong WIN/TCP. Both products provide a basic socket library similar to the 4.x BSD package (PC-NFS also provides a Remote Procedure Call (RPC) interface but no RPC compiler!). These products would meet our needs except that neither will run as part of a "well behaved" WINDOWS Application (i.e., one that locks and unlocks memory, allows data segments to move and does take over the timer interrupt). Unfortunately, we cannot use "Application Level" protocols like FTP, telnet or rsh. These provide host-to-host not program-to-program connections. Can anyone share their expertise in this area? -- Craig Statchuk P.O. Box 9707 uunet!mitel!sce!cognos!craigs Cognos Incorporated 3755 Riverside Dr. HUMAN: (613) 738-1440 Ottawa, Ontario FAX: (613) 738-0002 CANADA K1G 3Z4  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU; 24 Mar 90 17:09:57 EST Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU; 24 Mar 90 17:06:14 EST Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa05910; 24 Mar 90 17:02 EST Received: by BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU (5.61/25-eef) id AA12047; Sat, 24 Mar 90 16:13:17 EST Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 23 Mar 90 23:49:50 GMT From: Pete Gregory Organization: Bally Systems, Reno, NV Subject: Is 'PC Network' compatible with 'Ethernet' ?????? Message-Id: <242@bally.Bally.COM> Sender: info-pcnet-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu Hi y'all netlanders.... I am about to acquire Ethernet cards for my two PS/2's (a mod 70 and 80). So far all I've found (through another guy at work whose job it is to buy equipment) is PC-Network adaptor cards. My question: - will these work on an Ethernet? Thanks in advance.... Pete Gregory : uucp: uunet!bally!pete | Software Engr. : domain: pete@bally.bally.com ---|--- Bally Systems : phone: 702-323-6156 x882 | John 3:16 255 Bell St. : FAX: 702-323-5997 | (think about it!) Reno, NV 89503 |  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU; 24 Mar 90 23:08:38 EST Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU; 24 Mar 90 23:04:54 EST Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa19318; 24 Mar 90 23:02 EST Received: by BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU (5.61/25-eef) id AA26556; Sat, 24 Mar 90 22:09:00 EST Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 24 Mar 90 19:24:20 GMT From: Lyle Seaman Organization: Wang Labs, Platform Comms. Subject: Re: TCP/IP under MS-WINDOWS Message-Id: <1990Mar24.192420.17645@comm.wang.com> References: <8111@cognos.UUCP> Sender: info-pcnet-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu craigs@cognos.UUCP (Craig Statchuk) writes: >"Is there a package that provides TCP/IP support under MS-WINDOWS?" >Our basic requirement is for an OSI Session level interface (like >BSD Sockets) that works when linked to a WINDOWS application. Have you tried FTP software? I have no connections with them, but I believe they have a PC TCP/IP package. BTW, BSD Sockets are _not_ an OSI Session level interface. Sockets are a TCP/IP interface, and sometimes (SunLink) an OSI Transport interface, but never a session interface. -- Lyle Wang lws@comm.wang.com 508 967 2322 Lowell, MA, USA uunet!comm.wang.com!lws  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU; 29 Mar 90 04:34:47 EST Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU; 29 Mar 90 04:34:03 EST Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa23486; 29 Mar 90 4:28 EST Received: by BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU (5.61/25-eef) id AA08579; Thu, 29 Mar 90 04:24:54 EST Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 29 Mar 90 07:13:31 GMT From: Paul Bandler Organization: The Australian Centre for Unisys Software Subject: X.25 PC Board From ADAX - Request For Information Message-Id: <407@mlacus.oz> Sender: info-pcnet-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu Can anyone please provide me with information on the ADAX SDMA-PC communications controller card? It is sold as an X.25 controller for certain Unix/386 servers. It fits into an AT-bus machine. I'd like to find out what products or public domain software is available for it which runs under DOS. Ideally I'd like to find a quality TCP/IP/X.25 package that would give me TCP/IP services to other TCP hosts over X.25. If there are drivers for it for SLIP, PPP or even OSI TP I'd be interested in hearing of those too. Please reply by mail - postings get weeded very quicky on our system at 'busy' times. Thanks in anticipation Paul Bandler ACUS - Australian Centre For Unisys Software  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU; 3 Apr 90 15:10:43 EDT Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU; 3 Apr 90 15:10:15 EDT Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa19370; 3 Apr 90 15:06 EDT Received: by BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU (5.61/25-eef) id AA02478; Tue, 3 Apr 90 14:53:24 EDT Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 3 Apr 90 13:16:38 GMT From: Ronald Werring Organization: Open-I Software BV, Amersfoort, The Netherlands Subject: OS2 to UNIX networking Message-Id: <102@openi.nlnet> Sender: info-pcnet-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu Hello netlanders, Are there products for communication between os2 and unix via ethernet (TCP-IP) ?? Currently we have 1 unix (xenix) 386 computer and several DOS PCs. Al dos PCs have an ethernetcard and use PC-interface to mount the Unix-disk. We also use PC-interface for remote login and remote printen on the unix printer. Now we are going to "upgrade" te PCs to OS/2. Is there anything like PC-interface for OS/2 ?? Please mail replies to: e-mail: hp4nl!openi!ronald address: Ronald Werring Open-I Software Computerweg 6 Amersfoort, the Netherlands  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU; 6 Apr 90 14:54:47 EDT Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU; 6 Apr 90 14:40:09 EDT Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa08572; 6 Apr 90 14:37 EDT Received: by BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU (5.61/25-eef) id AA21807; Fri, 6 Apr 90 00:05:38 EDT Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 5 Apr 90 17:15:26 GMT From: Will E Estes Organization: The Portal System (TM) Subject: A Map of Commercial Protocols Against the OSI Model Message-Id: <28602@cup.portal.com> Sender: info-pcnet-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu I would like some assistance in understanding where different commercial protocols fit into the OSI seven layer model. To assist in this process, I have put together three tables (below) that map the OSI model to each of the major commercial networking environments. What I propose is this: please fill in the table for your area of expertise whatever that may be. As a favor to the network, I will re-post updated versions of these tables with footnotes to comp.protocols.misc. Please send mail to me directly and do not post to the net; I will incorporate all comments into the updated tables. Hopefully what will come out of this is a nice set of reference tables that can be used to place different commercial protocols into perspective - both in terms of the OSI model and same-level protocols in other commercial environments. Finally, if something similar to what I am doing here has already been done as concisely somewhere else, please let me know. No need to redo work that has already been done well by someone else. Instructions: 1) Please supply just the protocols/standards that are considered "standard" for the commercial environment in question. Do not include a protocol in an environment just because it has been ported there. TCP/IP would *not* be considered a standard protocol for a non-AIX IBM SNA environment, for example, although it has certainly been ported to several SNA environments. 2) If a protocol does not neatly fit into the OSI model and in fact spans more than one layer, please note this and give me a rough idea of services provided at each layer. I will make provisions in the table to note that one protocol spans several layers. Notation: 1) Where something spans more than one layer, this is noted by parens (e.g., NETBIOS(3), NETBIOS(4)) 2) Footnotes are represented by brackets (e.g., NETBIOS [1]). An item that both spans different layers and has footnotes would look like this: NETBIOS(3) [1] Thanks, Will (sun!portal!cup.portal.com!Will) Tables: OSI Layer | IBM SNA | Novell | NETBIOS ------------------------------------------------------ Application | | | | | | | | | ------------------------------------------------------ Presentation | | | | | | | | | ------------------------------------------------------ Session | | | | | | | | | ------------------------------------------------------ Transport | | | NETBIOS | | | | | | ------------------------------------------------------ Network | | | | | | | | | ------------------------------------------------------ Data-Link | | | | | | | | | ------------------------------------------------------ Physical | | Ethernet, | Ethernet, | | Arcnet | Token Ring, | | | Arcnet ------------------------------------------------------ OSI Layer | LAN Manager | UNIX | DECnet ------------------------------------------------------ Application | | | | | | | | | ------------------------------------------------------ Presentation | | | | | | | | | ------------------------------------------------------ Session | | | | | | | | | ------------------------------------------------------ Transport | | TCP, | | | UDP | | | | ------------------------------------------------------ Network | | IP | | | | | | | ------------------------------------------------------ Data-Link | | | | | | | | | ------------------------------------------------------ Physical | Ethernet, | Ethernet | Ethernet | Token Ring | | | | | ------------------------------------------------------ OSI Layer | Appletalk | OSI | Other ------------------------------------------------------ Application | | X.400, | | | X.500 | | | | ------------------------------------------------------ Presentation | | | | | | | | | ------------------------------------------------------ Session | | | | | | | | | ------------------------------------------------------ Transport | | | ISDN, | | | X.25 | | | ------------------------------------------------------ Network | | | | | | | | | ------------------------------------------------------ Data-Link | | | | | | | | | ------------------------------------------------------ Physical | | | FDDI | | | | | | ------------------------------------------------------  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU; 9 Apr 90 01:30:49 EDT Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU; 9 Apr 90 01:29:24 EDT Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa15768; 9 Apr 90 1:22 EDT Received: by BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU (5.61/25-eef) id AA01941; Mon, 9 Apr 90 01:01:55 EDT Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 8 Apr 90 19:38:44 GMT From: The News Manager Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose CA. Subject: Re: OS2 to UNIX networking Message-Id: <1126@excelan.COM> Sender: info-pcnet-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu > Hello netlanders, > > Are there products for communication between os2 and unix via > ethernet (TCP-IP) ?? > address: > Ronald Werring > Open-I Software > Computerweg 6 > Amersfoort, the Netherlands From: manoj@excelan.COM (manoj @ Prod Mktg) Path: manoj Novell offers a full blown TCP/IP for OS/2 that offers Hardware Independent NDI conformant interface.. to support a variety of TOKEN RING & Ethernet cards TCP/IP/UDP RFC NetBIOS Telnet, ftp, tftp etc.. R-utilities Programmer's toolkit ( 4.3 BSD socket Library) For more details or a spec-sheet call 801-379-5900 or call me +---+ manoj goel, | +-+-+ Product Marketing +-+-+ | Excelan/Novell, San Jose, CA +---+ (408) 473-8369 (voice) / 433-0775 (fax) / e-mail: manoj@novell.com ___________________________________________________________________________ Do something unusual today. Accomplish work on the computer. +---+ manoj goel, | +-+-+ Product Marketing +-+-+ | Excelan/Novell, San Jose, CA +---+ (408) 473-8369 (voice) / 433-0775 (fax) ___________________________________________________________________________ When all else fails, read the instructions!  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU; 17 Apr 90 01:47:17 EDT Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU; 17 Apr 90 01:13:42 EDT Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa21917; 17 Apr 90 1:14 EDT Received: by bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU (5.61/25-eef) id AA07387; Sat, 14 Apr 90 04:23:12 EDT Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 11 Apr 90 17:18:11 GMT From: Craig Statchuk Organization: Cognos Inc., Ottawa, Canada Subject: Sources for NDIS drivers Message-Id: <8195@cognos.UUCP> Sender: info-pcnet-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu Does anyone know where I can obtain NDIS drivers for 3Com ethernet cards (3C501, 3C503, 3C505 AND 3C523)? Some other naive questions: 1: Do such drivers even exist? 2: Is this a good way to achieve hardware independence? We intend to use the drivers on both ISA and MCA machines running OS/2 SE and MS-DOS (with WINDOWS in some cases). Thanks in advance for any help. I will summarize responses for the net... -- Craig Statchuk P.O. Box 9707 uunet!mitel!sce!cognos!craigs Cognos Incorporated 3755 Riverside Dr. craigs%cognos.uucp@uunet.uu.net HUMAN: (613) 738-1440 Ottawa, Ontario FAX: (613) 738-0002 CANADA K1G 3Z4  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU; 17 Apr 90 02:41:17 EDT Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU; 17 Apr 90 02:18:07 EDT Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa24366; 17 Apr 90 2:17 EDT Received: by bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU (5.61/25-eef) id AA07337; Sat, 14 Apr 90 04:22:36 EDT Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 11 Apr 90 17:03:42 GMT From: Craig Statchuk Organization: Cognos Inc., Ottawa, Canada Subject: TCP/IP from OS/2 Message-Id: <8194@cognos.UUCP> Sender: info-pcnet-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu I have been trying to dig up sources for TCP/IP TRANSPORT level support under OS/2. So far I have come up with 4 possibilities -- any of which may or may not be suitable -- maybe someone can help: 1. PC/TCP for OS/2 from FTP Inc. This is a new product (just released this month) that provides APPLICATION layer support (ftp, telenet, et al.) Currently they DO NOT have a Programmer's Toolkit that provides TRANSPORT layer support (either 4.x BSD Sockets or NAMED PIPES is acceptable). Apparently they will be releasing such a product soon. 2. TCP/IP for OS/2 from IBM. Appears to have all neccessary development tools and libraries. Questions: Rumour has it that you need OS/2 EE to use this package -- does anyone know for sure? Also, are any of the libraries usable in a DLL? 3. Essex TCP/2 -- had some good recommendations on this package except that I don't know how to contact them (sorry but I've never heard of Essex Systems -- I have a feeling that this is about to change). 4. Excelan/Novell for OS/2 -- Provides 4.3 BSD socket support as DLL (good!) and support for NDIS network cards. Question: Is Novell LAN Manager Software required to run in a UNIX environment? Does anyone have any experience with this package? We intend to port some existing applications from SUN UNIX to OS/2 and would like to use a BSD Socket library. Thanks in advance -- I will summarize responses for the net if I find out anything interesting... -- Craig Statchuk P.O. Box 9707 uunet!mitel!sce!cognos!craigs Cognos Incorporated 3755 Riverside Dr. craigs%cognos.uucp@uunet.uu.net HUMAN: (613) 738-1440 Ottawa, Ontario FAX: (613) 738-0002 CANADA K1G 3Z4  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU; 17 Apr 90 03:07:21 EDT Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU; 17 Apr 90 03:02:24 EDT Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa26213; 17 Apr 90 3:02 EDT Received: by bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU (5.61/25-eef) id AA11405; Mon, 16 Apr 90 05:41:34 EDT Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 16 Apr 90 09:01:46 GMT From: Steve Ostrove Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Subject: University of Maryland Network Communications Package now available Message-Id: <6401@umd5.umd.edu> Sender: info-pcnet-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu *** ANNOUNCEMENT *** The University of Maryland's TCP/IP Suite of Programs for DOS The University of Maryland Network Communications Package was developed at the University of Maryland at College Park in a joint study sponsored by IBM and will be available from Wisc-Ware on the 16th of April. With these programs you can: o Conduct multiple simultaneous Telnet sessions with either similar or dissimilar hosts o Execute commands and print on a remote host o Send, receive and manage electronic mail In addition, the following is included at no additional cost: o SOURCE CODE - The entire source is provided with the only exception being vendor proprietary code. Vendors provided less than 1% of the source. o NFS - NFS client support for remote file, system and printer access. o Netwatch - Obtain real time packet monitoring with the ability to redirect the output to a file for later analysis. Pricing is as follows: Member institution Non-members and faculty only general public o Single user copies $100.00 $200.00 o Class 200.00 N/A o Site: Single Campus (member institutions only) small-sized institution $1000.00 medium-sized institution $1500.00 large-sized institution $2000.00 Multi-campus $5000.00 For more information, see the full release notice in comp.newprod -- Steve Ostrove - University of Maryland CSC PC/IP/Net Project usenet: ...!seismo!cvl!umd5!ostrove INTERNET: ostrove@umd5.umd.edu BITNET: ostrove@umdd.bitnet  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU; 17 Apr 90 03:07:30 EDT Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU; 17 Apr 90 03:02:38 EDT Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa26249; 17 Apr 90 3:02 EDT Received: by bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU (5.61/25-eef) id AA13808; Mon, 16 Apr 90 06:21:36 EDT Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 12 Apr 90 22:57:06 GMT From: Paul Gillingwater Organization: Actrix Public Access UNIX, Wellington, New Zealand Subject: Graphics terminal emulation over TCP/IP Message-Id: <1990Apr12.225706.8831@actrix.co.nz> Sender: info-pcnet-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu Hi, We have a customer who has SAS running under HP-UX on an HP system. They have a DOS based PC connected via TCP/IP to the UNIX system, and they login via telnet, which supports a VT100 emulation. They're looking for a low-cost option for displaying SAS/Graphics on their PC workstation, with the graphics coming over the TCP/IP network. I believe that Kermit 3.0 supports a NETBios interface, but I don't know how this would interface with TCP/IP. Has anyone got Kermit talking over TCP/IP from a PC? If so, how? SAS supports REGIS, but Kermit only supports some VT340 functionality, but not Regis, so I guess we could use Tektronix 4010/4014 emulation from SAS with Kermit. Can anyone recommend a cheap PC graphics terminal emulator which will support Telnet type protocols? Can anyone suggest a way that Kermit 3.x can be made to work over TCP/IP? Please e-mail suggestions, and I will summarise. -- Paul Gillingwater, paul@actrix.co.nz  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU; 17 Apr 90 03:09:31 EDT Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU; 17 Apr 90 03:07:56 EDT Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa26396; 17 Apr 90 3:04 EDT Received: by bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU (5.61/25-eef) id AA26387; Mon, 16 Apr 90 12:03:06 EDT Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 16 Apr 90 14:16:42 GMT From: bywater!arnor!news@uunet.uu.net Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center Subject: RE: TCP/IP from OS/2 Message-Id: <1990Apr16.141642.3106@arnor.uucp> Sender: info-pcnet-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu IBM's TCP/IP for OS/2 comes with the following APIs: sockets, SUN RPC, Apollo NCS, Kerberos, SNMP DPI. They are not DLLs. EE is a requirement, indeed. Also, I understand that FTP INC OS/2 TCP/IP toolkit is not yet available and is not included in the price of the package, whereas IBM's OS/2 TCP/IP $675 package includes the toolkit. Also, IBM's OS/2 TCP/IP optionally comes with complete source code. And, IBM has announced the intent pf providing NFS client support in a very short future. Needless to say, that client will not run with FTP INCs package. Oleg Vishnepolsky  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU; 17 Apr 90 03:18:43 EDT Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU; 17 Apr 90 03:18:28 EDT Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa27067; 17 Apr 90 3:17 EDT Received: by bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU (5.61/25-eef) id AA11126; Mon, 16 Apr 90 16:59:47 EDT Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 16 Apr 90 20:32:20 GMT From: Steven DeLaney Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA Subject: Looking for Info on NetBIOS Message-Id: <916@gold.GVG.TEK.COM> Sender: info-pcnet-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu Hi netlanders: I am just coming up to speed on network applications. I'm in the in the process of evaluating a relational database system that has support for "NetBIOS compatible networks". In other words, it can act as a database server by providing, in addition to the standalone functions, network file locking, record sharing, etc. So, what I'm looking for is more specifics on "NetBIOS". Is this a protocol layer, a set of network services, or what? I assume it is commercially supported; is this part of Novell Netware, 3-COM, etc? Any information you might be able to provide, or to steer me in right direction as far as references or vendors, would be greatly appreciated. steved@gold.gvg.tek.com Steve DeLaney Grass Valley Group (916) 478-3478  Received: from MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (CHAOS 3131) by AI.AI.MIT.EDU; 17 Apr 90 05:18:42 EDT Received: from lcs.mit.edu (CHAOS 15044) by MC.LCS.MIT.EDU; 17 Apr 90 05:18:25 EDT Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by mintaka.lcs.mit.edu id aa01241; 17 Apr 90 5:19 EDT Received: by bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU (5.61/25-eef) id AA04940; Tue, 17 Apr 90 04:37:02 EDT Received: from USENET by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with netnews for info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu (info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu) (contact usenet@bloom-beacon.mit.edu if you have questions) Date: 16 Apr 90 16:00:00 GMT From: imagen!atari!portal!cup.portal.com!Ken_C_Neubauer@bloom-beacon.mit.edu Organization: The Portal System (TM) Subject: Re: TCP/IP from OS/2 Message-Id: <29009@cup.portal.com> References: <8194@cognos.UUCP> Sender: info-pcnet-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu To: info-pcnet@mc.lcs.mit.edu As for Excelan/Novel for OS/2, it still is vaporware. I have had a copy ordered since February. They said they were going to ship it April 6 or 9, but I got a call the 11th saying it had been delayed again. They seem to say each month that it will ship, and then it is delayed each month. So I guess I will have to wait for my May scheduled delivery date. Ken Neubauer sun!portal!cup.portal.com!Ken_C_Neubauer